Why is this game so hard to like, for me? - Guild Wars Forums

Thannor · Apr 25, 2007, 12:16 AM // 00:16

I really want to love this game. I've had it since almost release and have played it for over 300 hours, but I can't seem to find enjoyment in this game anymore. My first games through I almost beat both campaigns. On prof, I got to Thunderhead keep, played once, stopped. On factions, I got to the last mission and just didn't want to play anymore.

I played Tombs(I think? Underworld maybe.. It was a while ago) two or three times and LOVED it, but I can never find people to do it with. I've never tried PvP because, again, no one to do it with.

Just today, I tried starting an Ele/x on prof and I just couldn't get anywhere. I kept thinking of "What would this character do end-game?" but I realized I likely wouldn't play any endgame stuff and I just stopped...

I really want to play endgame stuff, but I've never found a guild. In over 300 hours, I've yet to join a guild that had over 30 active members and did Tombs/UW or PvP. I don't think I suck, either. I would say I was at least an above average monk, and a great mesmer... And still nothing.

Bad luck? Normal? Any suggestions? I really want to play this game.. I refuse to even uninstall it even though I don't even play it. >.<

Zinger314 · Apr 25, 2007, 12:22 AM // 00:22

Guild Wars is not an "end-game" game, since there's no character development past lv. 20. That's why many people quit for WoW. (which has a hell lot of end-game. Maybe an unhealthy amount of end-game)

Bryant Again · Apr 25, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25

Sadly, the only end-game your going to find is either playing PvP or making another character.

Dubby · Apr 25, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25

Join a guild (lower your standards) or find something else you enjoy.

marshy man · Apr 25, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26

my advice: go to la, or ascolon, just spam "looking for guild with x+ number of active members! want guildhall/cape/filled out merchants.uw/fow/doa" not to be mean to anyone who invites you, but if you see a majority of 1 monthers, then leave and keep going unitl you find a guild that you like. my suggestion though is not to start your own until you feel like you want that kind of commitment. gl

lightblade · Apr 25, 2007, 12:39 AM // 00:39

You DO NOT have to be in a 30+ active member guild to have fun in the game. All you need is a mature guild leader that knows who's naughty and who's nice and kick those damn bastards out when its needed.

My guild bearly have 20 active member, yet we have fun together. Our alliance have 7 core member guilds and some others come and go.

Evilsod · Apr 25, 2007, 12:43 AM // 00:43

My leader, an officer and I just went on an Elonian mastering spree. Thats a grand total of 3 people needed plus heros and we had quite alot of fun, masters on 7 Elonian missions on Hard Mode, none attempted more than twice.

Having tons of active members doesn't make a guild fun. As proved by a guild in our alliance. They went on a mass inviting spree, they now have a ton of active members, but most are idiots... or just completely clueless.

Ps. Grand Court Hard Mode in 5:42 ftw ^^

Blackest Rose · Apr 25, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45

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Originally Posted by marshy man

my advice: go to la, or ascolon, just spam "looking for guild with x+ number of active members! want guildhall/cape/filled out merchants.uw/fow/doa" not to be mean to anyone who invites you, but if you see a majority of 1 monthers, then leave and keep going unitl you find a guild that you like. my suggestion though is not to start your own until you feel like you want that kind of commitment. gl

I also recommend finding a guild to share experiences with.
But instead of going to where all the newb guilds are - which will likely die in a week - try a very high end area.

Firstly you should find a better class of guild regurlarly playing tombs, DOA, Urgoz, Deep etc and secondly there won't be as many spams to contend with.

I find that a good way to find some potentially good guilds.

Playing guild wars over ventrillo or teamspeak with guildies is like a different game also. It's much more fun and will help you get into the game.

Good luck!

l Batman l · Apr 25, 2007, 01:11 AM // 01:11

Go for titles...keeps the game alive for me.

Thannor · Apr 25, 2007, 01:35 AM // 01:35

Alright... So, I guess I'll look for a guild. Best place to go for it is what? Thunderhead and up, or?

Samurai-JM · Apr 25, 2007, 01:52 AM // 01:52

Best to look would either be LA, maybe Kamadan or Kaineng for a regular guild, or even Random Arenas or Great Temple for a PvP guild.

Hyprodimus Prime · Apr 25, 2007, 01:54 AM // 01:54

I also want to get into more PvP, there isnt much time for me though to sift through people finding the right group or joining/making a PvP guild either. But I find in PvE theres still a hell lot to do. GW is like many PvE games in which the player plays for money. In gW one might buy 15k Armor, Obsidian armor or even a torment weapon. I dont know about you, but I like farming, especially solo. Its quite exhilarating to know you can kill a mob that entire teams find hard to survive. Titles to me are a waste of time, and I think are the closest things to crafting levels GW is going to get. Each profession has something to offer as you can probably tell by now. Some just dont click, but you said you are monk, mesmer and ele. On my ele alone I have been on for about 750 hours. If you really have nothing else to do, try contributing to the community. If you feel you have exhausted yourself of a profession, teach others about it.

Liberations · Apr 25, 2007, 01:56 AM // 01:56

Good guilds make all the difference, try your best to find one.

Thannor · Apr 25, 2007, 02:00 AM // 02:00

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Originally Posted by Samurai-JM

Best to look would either be LA, maybe Kamadan or Kaineng for a regular guild, or even Random Arenas or Great Temple for a PvP guild.

Perhaps I'll try that, then...

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I also want to get into more PvP, there isnt much time for me though to sift through people finding the right group or joining/making a PvP guild either. But I find in PvE theres still a hell lot to do. GW is like many PvE games in which the player plays for money. In gW one might buy 15k Armor, Obsidian armor or even a torment weapon. I dont know about you, but I like farming, especially solo. Its quite exhilarating to know you can kill a mob that entire teams find hard to survive. Titles to me are a waste of time, and I think are the closest things to crafting levels GW is going to get. Each profession has something to offer as you can probably tell by now. Some just dont click, but you said you are monk, mesmer and ele. On my ele alone I have been on for about 750 hours. If you really have nothing else to do, try contributing to the community. If you feel you have exhausted yourself of a profession, teach others about it.

I would do that, but again: I have no friends or guildmates to really get into anything. I loved my monk, breezed through the campaign and found myself sitting and thunderhead keep wondering why I'm even playing something online, because at least bots are constant in their suck. Then stop. I dunno, likely a clan is my best bet.

Zaganher Deathbane · Apr 25, 2007, 02:41 AM // 02:41

There is a guild recruitment section in this site. This is how I got invited by my guild now. You can post there all the specifications that you like and in no time you will receive private messages. Trust me it's worth it

Eldin · Apr 25, 2007, 02:45 AM // 02:45

What do you mean no endgame stuff? There's...

-Farming (a bit trickier now due to loot scaling)
-Titles
-Helping others
-Beating the other campaigns
-Becoming fabulously rich

Griff Mon · Apr 25, 2007, 02:57 AM // 02:57

It all depends on what you want to do. If you want to do a lot of Hero's Ascent, then hang out there and talk to people in those areas. If you like to do a lot of FoW or UW or other high-end PvE stuff then hang out in Temple of Ages and get in groups. People will notice that you are not in a guild, and will try to get you to join them.

Size, is not that important, it is your compatability with the other people. If you are over 30 and are in a guild with a bunch of high-school kids, well you are not gonna like it.

Be very clear about what you want, and tell them you will give them a try, even offer to pay back the 100 fee that they pay to invite you if you would rather be somewhere else. Don't be a guild hopper, but be selective. Getting in with a good guild really makes a big difference in game enjoyment.

Thomas.knbk · Apr 25, 2007, 05:50 AM // 05:50

Good guilds don't make all the difference. I've been guildless since I stopped playing PvP actively, and I have a helluva lot of fun in PvE (hard mode anyone?)

Antheus · Apr 25, 2007, 05:57 AM // 05:57

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Guild Wars is not an "end-game" game, since there's no character development past lv. 20. That's why many people quit for WoW. (which has a hell lot of end-game. Maybe an unhealthy amount of end-game)

You mean raiding the same instance over and over and over for 9 months till you get full epic set?

Is this also why everyone is disguisted how in WoW the game ends once you hit level cap?

Apr 25, 2007, 12:16 AM // 00:16	#1
Thannor Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: Mo/Me	Why is this game so hard to like, for me? I really want to love this game. I've had it since almost release and have played it for over 300 hours, but I can't seem to find enjoyment in this game anymore. My first games through I almost beat both campaigns. On prof, I got to Thunderhead keep, played once, stopped. On factions, I got to the last mission and just didn't want to play anymore. I played Tombs(I think? Underworld maybe.. It was a while ago) two or three times and LOVED it, but I can never find people to do it with. I've never tried PvP because, again, no one to do it with. Just today, I tried starting an Ele/x on prof and I just couldn't get anywhere. I kept thinking of "What would this character do end-game?" but I realized I likely wouldn't play any endgame stuff and I just stopped... I really want to play endgame stuff, but I've never found a guild. In over 300 hours, I've yet to join a guild that had over 30 active members and did Tombs/UW or PvP. I don't think I suck, either. I would say I was at least an above average monk, and a great mesmer... And still nothing. Bad luck? Normal? Any suggestions? I really want to play this game.. I refuse to even uninstall it even though I don't even play it. >.<

Apr 25, 2007, 12:22 AM // 00:22	#2
Zinger314 Debbie Downer Join Date: May 2006 Profession: N/Me	Guild Wars is not an "end-game" game, since there's no character development past lv. 20. That's why many people quit for WoW. (which has a hell lot of end-game. Maybe an unhealthy amount of end-game)

Apr 25, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25	#3
Bryant Again Hall Hero Join Date: Feb 2006	Sadly, the only end-game your going to find is either playing PvP or making another character.

Apr 25, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25	#4
Dubby Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Profession: D/	Join a guild (lower your standards) or find something else you enjoy.

Apr 25, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26	#5
marshy man Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: gardiner, me Guild: GameAmp Guides [AMP]	my advice: go to la, or ascolon, just spam "looking for guild with x+ number of active members! want guildhall/cape/filled out merchants.uw/fow/doa" not to be mean to anyone who invites you, but if you see a majority of 1 monthers, then leave and keep going unitl you find a guild that you like. my suggestion though is not to start your own until you feel like you want that kind of commitment. gl

Apr 25, 2007, 12:39 AM // 00:39	#6
lightblade Forge Runner Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Etereal Guard Profession: Me/Mo	You DO NOT have to be in a 30+ active member guild to have fun in the game. All you need is a mature guild leader that knows who's naughty and who's nice and kick those damn bastards out when its needed. My guild bearly have 20 active member, yet we have fun together. Our alliance have 7 core member guilds and some others come and go.

Apr 25, 2007, 12:43 AM // 00:43	#7
Evilsod Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]	My leader, an officer and I just went on an Elonian mastering spree. Thats a grand total of 3 people needed plus heros and we had quite alot of fun, masters on 7 Elonian missions on Hard Mode, none attempted more than twice. Having tons of active members doesn't make a guild fun. As proved by a guild in our alliance. They went on a mass inviting spree, they now have a ton of active members, but most are idiots... or just completely clueless. Ps. Grand Court Hard Mode in 5:42 ftw ^^

Apr 25, 2007, 01:11 AM // 01:11	#9
l Batman l Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006	Go for titles...keeps the game alive for me.

Apr 25, 2007, 01:35 AM // 01:35	#10
Thannor Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: Mo/Me	Alright... So, I guess I'll look for a guild. Best place to go for it is what? Thunderhead and up, or?

Apr 25, 2007, 01:52 AM // 01:52	#11
Samurai-JM Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: The Krimzon Odyssey [KO] Profession: A/	Best to look would either be LA, maybe Kamadan or Kaineng for a regular guild, or even Random Arenas or Great Temple for a PvP guild.

Apr 25, 2007, 01:54 AM // 01:54	#12
Hyprodimus Prime Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Vancouver BC Guild: Sorrow Masters Profession: E/	I also want to get into more PvP, there isnt much time for me though to sift through people finding the right group or joining/making a PvP guild either. But I find in PvE theres still a hell lot to do. GW is like many PvE games in which the player plays for money. In gW one might buy 15k Armor, Obsidian armor or even a torment weapon. I dont know about you, but I like farming, especially solo. Its quite exhilarating to know you can kill a mob that entire teams find hard to survive. Titles to me are a waste of time, and I think are the closest things to crafting levels GW is going to get. Each profession has something to offer as you can probably tell by now. Some just dont click, but you said you are monk, mesmer and ele. On my ele alone I have been on for about 750 hours. If you really have nothing else to do, try contributing to the community. If you feel you have exhausted yourself of a profession, teach others about it.

Apr 25, 2007, 01:56 AM // 01:56	#13
Liberations Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Azeroth (shhh) Guild: Ryders of the Sword [FrNd] Profession: E/	Good guilds make all the difference, try your best to find one.

Apr 25, 2007, 02:41 AM // 02:41	#15
Zaganher Deathbane Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Las Vegas Profession: N/	There is a guild recruitment section in this site. This is how I got invited by my guild now. You can post there all the specifications that you like and in no time you will receive private messages. Trust me it's worth it

Apr 25, 2007, 02:45 AM // 02:45	#16
Eldin Forge Runner Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: America. How about you, commie? Guild: Fellows of Mythgar [FOM] Profession: R/Mo	What do you mean no endgame stuff? There's... -Farming (a bit trickier now due to loot scaling) -Titles -Helping others -Beating the other campaigns -Becoming fabulously rich

Apr 25, 2007, 02:57 AM // 02:57	#17
Griff Mon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In the Elfen Forests of Washington State Guild: Damage Radius Profession: N/	It all depends on what you want to do. If you want to do a lot of Hero's Ascent, then hang out there and talk to people in those areas. If you like to do a lot of FoW or UW or other high-end PvE stuff then hang out in Temple of Ages and get in groups. People will notice that you are not in a guild, and will try to get you to join them. Size, is not that important, it is your compatability with the other people. If you are over 30 and are in a guild with a bunch of high-school kids, well you are not gonna like it. Be very clear about what you want, and tell them you will give them a try, even offer to pay back the 100 fee that they pay to invite you if you would rather be somewhere else. Don't be a guild hopper, but be selective. Getting in with a good guild really makes a big difference in game enjoyment.

Apr 25, 2007, 05:50 AM // 05:50	#18
Thomas.knbk Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006	Good guilds don't make all the difference. I've been guildless since I stopped playing PvP actively, and I have a helluva lot of fun in PvE (hard mode anyone?)